The reason to own a gamecube
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Ok first of all to everyone, I'd just like to point out that I am not biased in any way, and the only reason why I am defending Microsoft at the moment is because I felt that it was being slandered unjustly, I would do the same thing if it was any other console/company. However I have used actual facts in this, which is the reality of the industry, so if anyone percieves negativity because of what I said, it has nothing to do with me, its your own perception that what the compnaies have done is wrong or not.

Zagatto Wrote:Before anyone else jumps on the "beat on Sony" bandwagon


Again, I'm not on the "beat on" anyone bandwagon, I was just showing a comparison that all of the reasons Ryo said he didn't like Microsoft and all of the fears that he had for what they might do to the games industry, had already been done or is being done by Sony. I was highlighting this to try a figure out exactly what his problem with Microsoft was. I don't have a problem with Sony or the Playstation brand or any other.


Zagatto Wrote:My only complaint with a company is M$ and the way they have been doing business.
Em...what are you talking about? They have not really done anything that any other games company hasn't. In fact if you were to look at Microsofts practices and policies with the X-box and compare it to all the companies and consoles that came before it then Microsoft is probably one of the most honerable when it comes to this with the X-box.

Zagatto Wrote:They decided to get into the game industry and are determined to take it over.

So did Sony, whats your point? So does every other company that does anything in the world. They all want maximum market share and product penetration. The thing that I find odd is that Sony is much much closer to achieving this goal, and yet you don't seem to have a problem with that, when Microsoft has far less market share, very odd indeed.

Zagatto Wrote:They courted a number of developers away from other platforms with lucarative contracts, deprived other systems from some solid games.
In the games industry we call this "exclusives", and I shouldn't have to tell you that every games company does it. As for depriving games...wasn't it Sony that bought 20% of Square? therefore renering it impossible for any Square games, most notably the Final Fantasy seres, from appearing on any other console? And now that Square and Enix have merged, doesn't that mean that an even larger game library is being "deprived" from people who don't own Playstation branded hardware?. The only way that this was changed was through a small corporate loop hole and that Nintendo was so desperate that the only way they could get a Final Fantasy branded game on the GC was to pay for development themselves through a special fund that was set up, seemingly just for this and similar purposes.

And if you think that the games that you were "deprived" of are "solid games" then you should buy an X-box to play them if it botheres you that much, either that or stop crying about it.

Zagatto Wrote:The biggest offense in my eyes is the fact that they continue to sell every unit at a loss trying to gain market shares rather than running a business plan that requires them to make a profit.

Em, HELLO!! That is their business plan, to gain market share and brand recognition and thus in the next generation to gain profit, its called a long term business plan and its a good one. There is no way Microsoft could compete at an equal level with the likes of Sony when first comming in. They need to gain brand recognition and market share.

Besides, all console manufactures sell their console at a loss and make their profits on software sales. So are they all evil for wanting to get market share to sell more games to get profits? or is this a good business plan. I think we all know the answer.

Zagatto Wrote:Undercutting is one thing but to run a negative profit line just to stay in the game doesn't make sense to me.

Again, see above.

As for Ryo's comment, I have no idea what your sig means...so you changing it means nothing to me really.
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The reason to own a gamecube - by babyeater0 - 11-09-2004, 06:36 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Last Exile - 11-09-2004, 07:44 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by evilomar - 11-09-2004, 08:24 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Ryo of Inferno - 11-09-2004, 09:26 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Last Exile - 11-09-2004, 09:28 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by -spike- - 11-09-2004, 09:52 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Blight - 11-11-2004, 01:40 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by babyeater0 - 11-11-2004, 02:32 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Schultz - 11-11-2004, 05:00 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Blight - 11-12-2004, 08:43 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Mantis421 - 11-12-2004, 12:42 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by babyeater0 - 11-12-2004, 05:06 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Schultz - 11-13-2004, 12:55 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Puppet Master - 11-13-2004, 01:35 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by babyeater0 - 11-13-2004, 08:00 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Ryo of Inferno - 11-13-2004, 10:39 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by sanosuke - 11-13-2004, 11:37 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Schultz - 11-14-2004, 12:30 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Puppet Master - 11-14-2004, 12:43 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Ryo of Inferno - 11-14-2004, 01:04 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Puppet Master - 11-14-2004, 01:14 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Ryo of Inferno - 11-14-2004, 01:27 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Puppet Master - 11-14-2004, 01:40 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Blight - 11-14-2004, 11:55 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Cidien - 11-14-2004, 03:15 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Ryujin - 11-15-2004, 05:02 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Ryo of Inferno - 11-15-2004, 12:12 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by evilomar - 11-15-2004, 03:15 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Ryujin - 11-16-2004, 04:30 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Schultz - 11-16-2004, 04:41 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Ryo of Inferno - 11-16-2004, 03:53 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Cidien - 11-16-2004, 03:58 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by rav96 - 11-16-2004, 06:05 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by -spike- - 11-16-2004, 07:15 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Ryujin - 11-17-2004, 10:50 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Blight - 11-17-2004, 10:59 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Ryo of Inferno - 11-17-2004, 09:27 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Ryujin - 11-18-2004, 04:27 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Elcoholic - 11-18-2004, 05:10 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Zagatto - 11-18-2004, 06:14 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Elcoholic - 11-18-2004, 06:36 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Schultz - 11-18-2004, 08:05 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Ryo of Inferno - 11-18-2004, 08:49 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Ryujin - 11-19-2004, 03:38 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Ryo of Inferno - 11-19-2004, 10:14 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Ryujin - 11-19-2004, 12:31 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Ryo of Inferno - 11-19-2004, 02:38 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by babyeater0 - 11-19-2004, 08:07 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Schultz - 11-19-2004, 11:08 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Puppet Master - 11-19-2004, 11:23 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Blight - 11-19-2004, 11:38 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Puppet Master - 11-19-2004, 11:48 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Blight - 11-19-2004, 11:55 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Ryo of Inferno - 11-20-2004, 02:18 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Schultz - 11-20-2004, 03:11 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Schultz - 11-20-2004, 03:13 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Schultz - 11-20-2004, 03:16 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Schultz - 11-20-2004, 03:22 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by evilomar - 11-20-2004, 09:10 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by babyeater0 - 11-20-2004, 02:39 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Blight - 11-20-2004, 02:48 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by babyeater0 - 11-20-2004, 02:55 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Blight - 11-20-2004, 02:57 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Ryujin - 11-20-2004, 03:17 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Schultz - 11-20-2004, 10:31 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Ryo of Inferno - 11-21-2004, 12:52 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by babyeater0 - 11-21-2004, 09:00 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Ryo of Inferno - 11-21-2004, 03:31 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by vietthuggin607 - 12-03-2004, 09:26 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Ryo of Inferno - 12-04-2004, 03:04 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Schultz - 12-04-2004, 03:39 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Ryo of Inferno - 12-04-2004, 12:08 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Ryujin - 12-04-2004, 03:03 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Ryo of Inferno - 12-04-2004, 04:39 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Puppet Master - 12-04-2004, 04:47 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Schultz - 12-05-2004, 01:59 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Ryo of Inferno - 12-05-2004, 03:27 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Elcoholic - 12-05-2004, 10:32 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Puppet Master - 12-05-2004, 10:42 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by onizuka17711 - 12-05-2004, 04:19 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Ryo of Inferno - 12-06-2004, 03:08 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Schultz - 12-06-2004, 03:13 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Ryo of Inferno - 12-06-2004, 05:08 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Schultz - 12-06-2004, 08:39 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Blight - 12-06-2004, 10:08 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Ryo of Inferno - 12-09-2004, 06:29 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Schultz - 12-09-2004, 10:31 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Ryo of Inferno - 12-10-2004, 12:40 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Schultz - 12-10-2004, 02:52 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Ryo of Inferno - 12-10-2004, 03:15 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Schultz - 12-10-2004, 03:54 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Ryo of Inferno - 12-10-2004, 04:03 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Ryujin - 12-16-2004, 05:25 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Puppet Master - 12-16-2004, 05:58 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Schultz - 12-16-2004, 07:08 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Black Howling - 01-05-2005, 10:07 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Ryo of Inferno - 01-06-2005, 01:11 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Zagatto - 01-06-2005, 07:43 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Puppet Master - 01-06-2005, 08:50 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Zagatto - 01-06-2005, 09:02 AM
The reason to own a gamecube - by Ryo of Inferno - 01-06-2005, 03:22 PM
The reason to own a gamecube - by rav96 - 11-17-2004, 03:01 PM

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